Can you give us a little past
history on the band, like how you guys all met?
Pierre: We met in high school in Montreal, we all grew up at the same high school and thatís when we started playing together.
Chuck: But, I knew Phil the guitar player from childhood, we used to liive on the same street, so thatís a long time... But, yeah basically in school we started to play around 12 or 13 years old.
So, you guys have been playing
for how many years now?
Pierre: About four years together.
Chuck: Phil is new in the band, heís been in the band for two years. Pierre used to play guitar and sing at the same time now he only sings and Phil took over the guitar part and I think itís better. He added a whole new a whole new dimension to the band because heís more into aggressive music, metal. So has more of an aggressive touch to our catchy songs.
Your latest record No Worries
is on 2112 Records, can you tell us how you hooked up with them and is
this your first full length?
Chuck: Itís our first full length...
Pierre: We hooked up with them because one of our friends in Montreal... He knew the guys from Greenland, cause Greenland is 2112 Records, Greenland Productions. They listened to our first demo that we made and they liked it alot, so we played a couple shows for them and thatís how we hooked up with them.
Chuck: Yeah well the thing is Greenland in Montreal is like the biggest production company, they do like all the punk shows from Pennywise to Guttermouth to virtually any punk band or alternative bands. Theyíre into the scene in Canada too, theyíre like booking the SnoJam and LamperAge Festivals. When they first heard us they decided to manage us and thatís how we ended up on their label, two years after and this is our first full length.
How long did it take to bring
Chuck: The album?
Pierre: About a year and a half.
Chuck: Yeah, we released our demo and worked on the songs for about a year and then we record last fall in Morin heights, Quebec. The most amazing studio in Quebec like Celine Dion, Glass Tiger and all those amazing bands recorded there and then we went and mixed it at Westbeach Recorders in LA. So, it took a long time to work everything out...
Pierre: For the writing and all, Iíd say about a year and a half for the first full length.
Chuck: All the fucking around, like the cover and all these things... Thatís why it took so long. Finally, I think weíre all happy with the results, being on tour finally...
This is your first tour?
Chuck: Yeah, itís our first real tour of Canada.
Pierre: Our first tour of the west coast.
Chuck: We played some shows like SnoJam in Toronto and London but that was as far as we went. Now weíre totally happy to do this tour with Ten Foot Pole, itís a really amazing band that we like alot and itís just great.
So, where did you guys play last night or whenever?
Chuck: Itís our first show...
Pierre: Itís our first show on the tour.
Oh, itís the first show on the
You went all accross Canada...
Oh really? Are you guys going
Pierre: Weíre going to follow the tour down to Montreal.
Chuck: Weíre doing 23 shows around Canada in a row.
Oh really? Good exposure!
Chuck: Oh totally, totally happy about it. Itís great.
Pierre: Yeah, because Ten Foot Pole draws alot. So, they do draw alot... Itís good coverage.
Chuck: And, itís cool because we had to spend three days in Vancouver and saw the city... Great, great town.
What did you guys see that you
Chuck: We went to Canada Place, was pretty cool... All the tourist kind of things like Gas Town, Stanley Park.It was just amazing. Before we went to Banff... Itís a really nice province BC, itís amazing. And, the weather was amazing.
I was surprised you guys didnít
put out a record with Fearless Records, the best melodic hardcore label
in North America, what made you decide to go with 2112 instead of Fearless
or any other label?
Pierre: Because, 2112 we knew them for a while, theyíve been working with us for a while and they were starting this label so they wanted us to like help them out to start it and we needed their help. 2112 Records is affialted with Greenland Productions, they are pretty big, they got good connections with them so we stuck with them.
Chuck: Also we thought they had a great roster of bands. Man Oí Steel, X-Large, Shades of Culture a hip-hip band from Montreal.
Pierre: Ten Days Late.
Chuck: Ten Days Late from Vancouver and the bass player of the Bad Brainís new band is on the label too.
Whatís his band, called?
Chuck: Itís called Stealth. Itís pretty intense, rap-metal kind of thing. It was kind of a logic move for us. But in the doesnít mean in the future we might wanna... Weíll see what happens. Right now, weíre happy with 2112. If something happens we might consider it. Itís not like a final decision.
Pierre, When it comes to writing
the lyrics for a song do you look at whatís going on in this world or do
you base them on personal experience?
Pierre: A little bit of both. Chuck helps me out when it comes to political stuff because he alot into the political stuff but I kind of twist it in my way. It doesnít really come from my experiences because I donít have alot in every parts of the world but I guess I...
Chuck: Just value what we have and just put our own thing in it.
Pierre: Yeah, I put my opinion in there and I put it in my own way and I do what I want to say.
Chuck: Basically what weíre doing is we look at the news and what is going on around the world and what really pisses us off and then we enfaliize it and put it together and we just write the final version of it, but basically itís a collective.
Pierre: Depends which ones, a couple of them are collectives...
Chuck: Whatever, weíre working together and youíre doing alot of work.
What are your thoughts on us
humans tearing apart the earth in the name of greed, do you think weíll
ever be able to stop this?
Pierre: Itís a part of our society now, destroying the earth is how we live, I donít think itís reversable.
Chuck: As long as there is economic interest in it... Basically, what is happening right now is Big Corporations just want to make shitloads of money and itís easier to just donít give a shit about the enviroment because it costs less money. Itís all based on profit. As long as the system works on this kind of attitude on those values it wonít change itís going to be totally fucked up.
Pierre: Itís possible to change, but itís so much of a change that we have to do, everybody has to work together.
Chuck: I think we as citrizens, we can do something...
Pierre: Everyone has to do their own part.
Chuck: It might be small...but at the same time we can help, we can do something about it.
Are you guys involved in any
poltiical organizations or volunteer anywhere or does the band take up
up most of your time?
Chuck: The band takes alot of time. I went to some protests, but nothing formal. I donít belong to a party or anything although I might support a party during the election or whatever but as a band... We did a benefit for Amnesty International, am I missing something. How do you call it?
Amnesty International, yeah thatís
Chuck: We did a benefit for that about two years ago, that was cool. Weíre planning to do more shows like that. But as far as being involved in a group it didnít happen yet. I think with the power that we have to influence people with the lyrics we have to use it in the right way...
Pierre: Thatís our way of being involved in the world is by sending out our message as far as away as we can and to as many people as we can by our music, thatís our way of being involved.
The mainstream media keeps telling
us Quebec wants to separate from Canada whoís at fault for wanting them
to do this, is it the politicans of Canada or who is it? I apologize if
it seems like Iím not educated on this, but Iím not. But, Iíd rather get
the whole answer from someone from Quebec than half an answer from the
Chuck: I think that this is a really complex question and we canít really summarize it in a few minutes. You gotta look at before Quebec was a colony and for a lot of years we lived under a colonial system and alot of the time the population didnít really like it and they were treated really bad and thatís the source of the separatist movement, thatís how it started. But now I think that the anglephone Quebec are totally more respectful. We donít really want to take a stand on this issue because itís really controversial. I personally think that nationalism is dangerous. Any kind of nationalism either Canadian Nationalism or Quebec Nationalism, German Nationalism or whatever, I think itís dangerous. Flags and all those symbols, I think we should try to stay away from this thatís how I see it. Itís hard to explain why people are so attracted to this attitude so easy just to pretend your the best...
Pierre: Then that is a sellout, thatís a sellout.
Chuck: For example... Green Day and Offspring. If you listen to Green Dayís first album and the last album, itís the same god damn thing, they didnít change a thing. Itís not their fault, I guess you know.
Pierre: Itís not a sellout...
Chuck: They didnít change a thing in their music.
Pierre: They just got more coverage, thatís all.
Chuck: I donít think itís wrong as long as you have something to say and want kids to know about it and learn about it, I think itís a good idea to do it.
Pierre: But, itís obvious some bands can use it in a way just for the popularity and the money, and thatís kindof wrong but you donít have to do it in that way.
3 I think that you can do a video and remain a true punk band. Cause Strung Out has a video, Ten Foot Pole has a video, No Use..., Face To Face, Blink... Virtually every band has a video. I think that people who are totally against and say some comments about it and guys that do that are stupid I think that they are missing the point and they donít want to evolve and they donít want to change. I think the world is out of patience and there is a new situation and bands have to follow it.
What do you think of corporations
making money off playing your video? Say there is a big beer AD directed
Chuck: We wouldnít be involved with any...
Like sometimes in the commercials
and stuff. Say thereís a video before like a big beer AD before your video
and an AD after your video thereís one with an anorexic girl promoting
some company thatís using third world workers in Asia or something. What
do you think of that?
Chuck: I think that Much Music and Musique Plus have some strict policies on advertising. Itís true that some TV channels do that and theyíre going to broadcast any kind of ADs and not even think about it. Much Music arenít airing smoking ADs because itís forbidden, they have strict policies on it. Itís true that thereís a problem with it, advertising itís a big business and itís big bucks. I donít think Much Music can be functioning without advertising, thatís their only source of money and theyíre helping out bands like Gob who have got total amazing exposure on Much Music and thatís how they get fans all over Canada. Itís helping young underground bands. Nothing is perfect, itís true youíre right, youíre totally right. Thatís something that people donít really think about, itís true that thereís a problem with it. I mean, if we centralize people on it, on the issues I think itís even, they got some ADs but at the same time theyíre broadcasting alternative sources of information like our lyrics and it can help influence people.
Pierre: It evenís it out.
What are your thoughts on punk
labels buying ADs in mainstream magazines instead of punk rock fanzines
because the mainstream ones get out to more people?
Chuck: I think they should do both, I think they should totally encourage underground papers. Whatís the point of killing the underground scene just to make more bucks? The ADs in the small zines are really cheap and not expensive, I think they should do both. If they want to reach a larger public, thatís understandable, you know what I mean. If Epitaph wants to reach a larger public, thatís their thing, thatís their business. But, I donít think that alot of companies do that. When I look at zines I see ADs for Fat or Epitaph.
Pierre: Alot of people donít look at the mainstream magazines, so theyíre just better off doing both.
Theyíre just going a different
avenue... Different people.
Pierre: They are just better off doing both.
Chuck: Yeah exactly, I think both is the best direction to do it. You canít expect a record label not to advertise in big publications because thatís the way they are gong to sell records, right. I think if they do both, and emphasize alot of the underground papers like yours and the other zines I know, I think thatís a really good idea and the right way to do it.
What do you hope to do with Reset
in the future?
Chuck: We hope to bring the message accross to the most people as we can and tour.
Pierre: Yeah, be able to tour, be able to live off it, and just...
Chuck: Yeah, because thatís a dream for every musicican, I think.
Pierre: Not have to starve to just to play the music.
Chuck: Just do the most in life.
Pierre: Being able to do only that and not having to have a second little crappy job.
Chuck: And, just touch some people with the lyrics and touch them with the music and when we get tons of letters and thatís the most amazing thing in the world. We get letters from Australia, Brazil, Europe, US, Canada... and thatís the most amazing thing in the world just to recieve those comments. Thatís what we want to do. Itís not about making money, itís about reaching as many people as we can and thatís what weíre going to do, I hope. With this tour, itís going to help alot.
When it comes to mass media like the television do you think television companies use brainwash techniques (Subliminal Messages -ed) to get us to buy their products? I remember a few years back they used this in a television commercial and they were caught using this kind of tactics. Do you think this happens or ever did happen?
Pierre: Thereís always a little bit of media twisting in an advertisement, they always kindof have a little bit of brainwashing but I donít think it really occurs that thereís big total brainwashing.. I donít think it really happens anymore.
Chuck: I think that if people are going to university to learn about marketing, itís because there is good reason to it and they know...
Pierre: There are some tactics for sure.
Chuck: You canít deny the fact that people go to school to learn this stuff, because there is some stuff you do need to know and some really easy way to grab customer attention and make them buy the products. Thatís a problem you know. Simple way to not fall into this, is just not watch TV and try to avoid advertising. Also you have to be strong enough to make your own choices and not be influenced by TV, if your TV is your master or your god or something then thatís a problem. thatís what we talk about in the song Why? on the CD. We talk about how TV influence comes from behaviours and attitudes and how it makes people violent a bit sometimes and pulls them into violence and sexism and all this stuff. But, you have to be strong and resist those kind of temptations from the mass media, you know what I mean. You have to stay true to your own belief and values.
I know this question is totally
played out, But what do you think of punk bands signing to major labels
instead of staying independent?
Pierre: Itís kind of the same question, itís all about sellouts... If you sign to a big label, you get more coverage and you get more stuff. But, if the label doesnít tell you you have to be more mainstream more poppy or stuff. Itís like Offspring they signed to Atlantic?
Chuck: They signed to Sony..
Pierre: Oh, anyways. There music is still as rough as it used to be and still as fast and as punk as it used to be. [I could argue that. -Brian ed]
Chuck: Fuck that! Look at Bad Religion, Look at Unwritten Law... They are all on Major Label but they kick ass, you know.
Pierre: As long as youíre not selling out and changing your music because of that.
Chuck: Also just like alot of people are saying... Just the guy from the Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra just said ďPunk is about doing whatever the fuck you want so who you are to judge what Offspring is doing, who are you to judge what GreenDay is doing...Ē Anything that is right for them. Apparently, Epitaph was trying to control Offspring thatís what I heard you know. Iím not saying itís true, but apparently... This whole thing falls the big you know what I mean. If a band puts out good music, people should just enjoy it for what it is and not try to put down the band. Iím just being honest right here. I know it would be so much easier to say ďOh yeah, Fuck those bands on major labels...Ē I donít think itís true. I think some bands playing on major labels is a really good move for them. That way they get money to tour, they get distribution all over the place. Look at Rage Agiainst the Machine, they can pass their message everywhere in the world because theyíre on a major label.
Pierre: And, they still have good ideals and still good values and theyíre promoting... And they really touch alot of people because of that and theyíre still on a major label and it doesnít really make a difference.
Chuck: I think that real punks should stop worrying about that and instead start to check out those bands and see what they have to say and then judge them, not just because they are signing to a major label. Listen to their music, listen to lyrics and then you can judge. Thatís how we see it. I know itís not a official way of answer the question but thatís what we think about it.
Okay. Do you think thatís hypocritical
singing against those kind-of corporations in your lyrics and stuff like
that and then joining them and making them millions of dollars and stuff
Pierre: Of course, thatís a fucking hypocrite.
Thatís what punk is about though,
itís about being against ruining the earth and just signing with them is
going to make them millions of dollars and, they are just going to go make
missles and atomic bombs and ruin the earth more, right?
Pierre: Well, youíre talking about labels here...
Well, the major corporations
they own the labels. and then theyíll own all the stores and shut down
all the independent stores and all the independent record labels and zines
and theyíll just own the world right, and youíre just supporting them and
makiing them more money and more powerful, right?
Chuck: You got a point there.
Pierre: If you put it that way...
Chuck: Yeah if you put it that way, youíre looking at a larger problem. Youíre not looking at music, youíre looking at something so much larger, youíre talking about the old capitalist system. We tried something different in the U.S.S.R. and it didnít work out. Iím not saying that barbarian capitalism is the best way to do it because itís totally wrong and conservatism is totally wrong. Weíre stuck in Canada right now, you know on the west and in Ontario. Kline in Alberta and Harris in Ontario. They are trying to achieve a total market society with no respect for poor people and absolutely no social protection, that is totally wrong. But, if you attack the entire system itís a much larger issue weíre talking about, itís societyís choices. Of course, it has something to do with punk bands signing to major labels but Iím not sure if itís totally related you know what I mean. Iím not sure if because Bad Religion is signing to Atlantic that...
Pierre: More bombs are being made...
I donít know, youíre still making
them millions of dollars and youíre still going to shut down the independent
stores. [The more power
corporations have, the less the independents have, which means the independents
will lose no matter what in the long run, and by making major labels millions
by signing to a major label is a bad idea if you want to make change (Because
they are going to use that money for their cause which is capitalism and
not to make this earth a better place for everyone) and in my mind punk
is about, making change and signing to a major label is definetly not doing
that. Sorry for the long rant. -Brian ed]
Pierre: If they still go to the independent stores, it wonít shut down.
Chuck: It wonít shut down. Thereís places for an alternative economy system which is based on independent companies, record stores and magazines. Itís upto the people to go and buy from there and support it. If you donít do it man, and if you just buy records from HMV...
Pierre: Itís normal that they will shut them down, because everybody goes there, so...
Chuck: I know a guy in Montreal that owns Underworld Records and is totally surviing and making lots of money and is totally independent. Itís possible to remain true, independent and underground as long as people in the scene support these kinds of shops and paper and everything.
Pierre: The only way that it would get shut down if people stopped going there...
Chuck: And also the bands have a role in there. Thatís why we support independent zines and always make sure our records are available in independent stores first, thatís our first priority. Then if HMV wants to pick it up... We released the album in independent stores two weeks before the entire big stores. Two weeks of sales, thatís way good.
Pierre: Itís our way of helping out.
What punk zines have you guys
been reading lately that you think are really good and what interests you
to read these zines the most?
Chuck: I like Flipside alot, itís a big zine and itís not as bad as it used to be.
Pierre: Itís about the only one I check out.
Chuck: MaximumRockNRoll is getting more into a joke, day after day. If itís not a Crass record or if it doesnít sound shitty they donít like it. What the fucks up with that, you know. I think Flipsideís probably the best around. Thatís what we read usually. But, this one is amazing. Agree To Disagree - we didnít know...
Chuck: Yeah exactly, I think itís cool that zines still exist and are still around to help underground bands like us to help get more exposure so itís really cool. And, yeah get the CD.
And, girls write Chuck!
Chuck: That would be nice. Yeah you can write me, send down some pictures. I could write you back...
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